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Metaverse Scoring, question for T-Man
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by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 2/3/2004 1:03:22 AM

Is it possible to clarify the scoring calculation for both the metaverse and empire totals.

I am having trouble reconciling my total to that of the metaverse with particular reference to scores submitted more than 6 months ago.

Thanks



                          
#1  by Citizen Arcilte - 2/3/2004 9:09:49 AM

BUMP... this needs an answer.

                      
#2  by Citizen Greldon - 2/3/2004 3:57:01 PM

I too would like this clarified. If scores that are older than six months evaporate, what's the point?

                          
#3  by Veteran Disciple777 - 2/3/2004 4:00:49 PM

Will be rather interesting to know what is happening.

If the problem is about space or size of the files, why not to leave every score that is over 6 months old as their value and don't degrade them more, only degrade those scores up to 6 months.

      
#4  by Citizen KEmperor - 2/3/2004 5:02:18 PM

Hold on, scored older than six months are disappearing?!?!

                      
#5  by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 2/3/2004 5:23:21 PM

KEmperor

I'm not sure at this stage thats why I've asked for clarification.

The only way I can match my score (to within a couple of hundred) to that of the metaverse is by dropping my scores from 7th July and earlier

                          
#6  by Citizen KEmperor - 2/3/2004 5:32:29 PM

Ah, I see. That's quite interesting, I'm curious as to what you find out then.

                      
#7  by Veteran SuChiUomizu - 2/3/2004 6:18:17 PM

I only posted one score ever, it's more than 6 months old, hasn't disappeared yet.



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#8  by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 2/3/2004 6:26:36 PM

Geoffrey

Thanks for that. If you were to submit another score I would be interested to know what happens.. Scores normally don't change until your next submission,

                          
#9  by Veteran Captain Jack Sparrow - 2/4/2004 12:07:12 AM

Geoffrey: the score itself never disappears from your record. It's value to your score, is what we're after. And that we don't know for sure untill you submit another.

                          
#10  by Diplomat Arturus Magi - 2/4/2004 5:55:08 AM

ISTR that there is a minimum value (as a percentage of the old value) a score can reduce to by 'aging.'

I believe each month's scores are added and weighted averaged seperately, then the net score for the month takes a 5% loss per month of age, to a minimum of 10% of the original value, for computing the total Metaverse score (which is a simple sum of the adjusted monthly averages).



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#11  by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 2/4/2004 7:15:37 AM

When does the minimum value come in?

At the moment it seems to stop including scores after the 7th 30 day block

                          
#12  by Citizen KitWarrior - 2/4/2004 8:28:36 AM

The minimum value would come in for the 18th block of the Meta score and the 9th block of the player score. This, however, does not address the gist of this thread - what explains our scoring discrepancies (why are our scores too low, not too high)?

                      
#13  by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 2/4/2004 4:00:44 PM

I submitted a 60K game last night and my score went up by 1K.. I also had 2 scores slip into the "dead zone".

Surely it's not that difficult for Stardock to publish the scoring calcs.


                          
#14  by Citizen Arcilte - 2/4/2004 4:19:55 PM

Surely it's not that difficult for Stardock to publish the scoring calcs.


Indeed.

                      
#15  by Citizen Exar Kuun - 2/4/2004 4:23:45 PM

Surely it's not that difficult for Stardock to publish the scoring calcs.


Indeed

{edit}Da#m Arclite beat me too it


[Message Edited]

                      
#16  by Citizen Hurley - 2/4/2004 4:39:09 PM

Da#m Arclite beat me too it


Indeed he did.

                      
#17  by Citizen Arcilte - 2/4/2004 4:41:08 PM

Indeed he did.


hehehe...

                      
#18  by Citizen Exar Kuun - 2/4/2004 4:52:40 PM

Indeed he did.




But back on theme

T-Man can we have an answer to our scoring question please?

                      
#19  by Citizen Greldon - 2/4/2004 4:58:45 PM

But back on theme T-Man can we have an answer to our scoring question please?


Indeed

                          
#20  by Veteran never-never - 2/4/2004 7:06:53 PM

hOW oDD

                        
#21  by Citizen Rabid Rob - 2/4/2004 7:31:41 PM

Well, I just submitted an Obscene Gigantic game where I retired -- having realized I was going to lose to the "Alien tech victory" -- and it netted me 9k points.

Before:
rank 219
score 60712

After:
rank 186
score 69444

The game itself was scored 3275.

So if you are tired with getting 1k, just try losing!



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#22  by Citizen Guy Bailey - 2/4/2004 11:27:06 PM

Take a look at this link.

http://www.galciv.com/forum.asp?BID=GF&id=120131 Link

It seems to say that all your scores in a 30 day block are added and divided by the square root of the number of games. If you want to get your total score, you add the monthly subtotals together to get your total score. Oh, and you only get 95% of the subtotal for the previous month, 90% for the month before that and so on.

I think that makes a lot of sense. I played a recent game after not playing for 9+ months. When I just added all my scores together and divided by the square root of the number of games, I got a much lower number. But since this was my only game this month, the MetaVerse just added the score to my total.

I'm glad they are continually improving the game. But I am a little curious how my "simple" and "easy" games from earlier versions of the game that were once worth thousands of points are now worth 300 or 600. But I played a new game under the latest version on Cakewalk and got over 4000 points...

      
#23  by Citizen Jaws the Wayfarer - 2/4/2004 11:31:53 PM

Guy
Thanks for the link, but the question is at what point does it stop being 5% and perhaps reduce by 10% or further.

I'm aware of the degradation per month but there seems to be a distinct downward calc after about 6 months.

All i'm after is the official calc.

                          
#24  by Citizen Exar Kuun - 2/5/2004 4:38:47 AM

Jaws,

Apparently T-man has said that the metaverse scoring system is not working properly since the metaverse update and their looking into it. This is "unofficial" by the way

Exar

                      
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